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Press Attache
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Posted - 2015.09.14 16:18:00 -
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There is no drawback?
You realize that he doesn't have his gun out while scanning right?
And that a gk.0 running four scans has no other team equipment?
Maybe if you played less Dom you wouldn't be so limited by scanners.
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Posted - 2015.09.14 20:12:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:What your saying.is.because of 1 piece of equipment I'll have to go back and fully spec into scout to not be scanned...
Ps ohhhh so 2 seconds with no gun in exchange for seeing everything is balanced? Haha okay
To the first point, yes if being scanned is such a deal breaker to your fun, then you should be running scout. Especially if your current plan involves being undetected(shotgunflanking for example) .
To the second, if you don't see the benefit of having an enemy of your team not shooting at you, I don't know how to help you.
The person running scans is playing for the team, and you want to nerf his team helping because you don't want to pay the cost(lower eHP) of running a scout suit to avoid being scanned.
The easiest thing to do would be to learn to fight instead just flank, but that might be above your skill ceiling based on your posts.
You ever play metro on BF 3 or 4? All it took was one recon with a T-ugs and everyone showed up, no hiding, no recharging, no cooldown and they have their gun out and they can have other equipment as well. Certainly didn't break anything there, and with the much lower ttk it should have.
Embrace fighting while scanned or run a scout suit, you have a choice, you just don't like the options so you want the game changed to suit you, to which I say nope.
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Posted - 2015.09.14 21:10:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:Press Attache wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:What your saying.is.because of 1 piece of equipment I'll have to go back and fully spec into scout to not be scanned...
Ps ohhhh so 2 seconds with no gun in exchange for seeing everything is balanced? Haha okay To the first point, yes if being scanned is such a deal breaker to your fun, then you should be running scout. Especially if your current plan involves being undetected(shotgunflanking for example) . To the second, if you don't see the benefit of having an enemy of your team not shooting at you, I don't know how to help you. The person running scans is playing for the team, and you want to nerf his team helping because you don't want to pay the cost(lower eHP) of running a scout suit to avoid being scanned. The easiest thing to do would be to learn to fight instead just flank, but that might be above your skill ceiling based on your posts. You ever play metro on BF 3 or 4? All it took was one recon with a T-ugs and everyone showed up, no hiding, no recharging, no cooldown and they have their gun out and they can have other equipment as well. Certainly didn't break anything there, and with the much lower ttk it should have. Embrace fighting while scanned or run a scout suit, you have a choice, you just don't like the options so you want the game changed to suit you, to which I say nope. Good players don't need scanners they have awareness, you said it yourself earlier you use scanners so you don't get shot in the back because you have no awareness, turn volume up and you can hear footsteps and ppl decloaking Your idea of battle seems to be 2 lines of ppl attacking front on with logi's behind repping I'm saying remove scanners or prevent ppl shooting at all for the full duration of the scan making targets visible In a gun game knowing where most of your targets are most of.the time is easy mode, focus should.be on making all Ewar modules better so scanners aren't needed,.want 30m of 20 precision? Fit a precision module.. Things like this would make scanners obsolete, provide more variety in fittings and.still allow ppl on all.suits to scan passively N at ranges dictated by the modules they fit... 1 person with 1 scanner should.not bring so many benefits for little risk (3 seconds of not firing is nothing compared.to lighting up most enemies.positions) This would make dust Ewar more inline with eve
I said if the sound was better, but its not, and so scanners.
My idea of battles in dust is people choosing the right suit for the role they want to play. The only reason why you are permanent scanned is because you refuse to run a scout suit. Let the people who can shoot and fight go a do that while you flank uncanned if that is what you need to do.
Knowing where the enemy is doesn't make killing them any easier, you still need to actually fight them. Have you never been the bait for a scanner? Let them scan you, retreat around corner with RE trap and harvest dot chasers.
Given the angles of scans, it isn't impossible to get out of the angle for satisfying flanking action, unless you only play dom, in which case switch your game mode if you want a more open ended match experience.
You really seem like you want all the benefits of a medium frame without any drawbacks, which is kind of childish. For someone who seems so bent out of shape by scanners, why do you not run a scout suit?
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Posted - 2015.09.15 14:53:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:Press Attache wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Press Attache wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:What your saying.is.because of 1 piece of equipment I'll have to go back and fully spec into scout to not be scanned...
Ps ohhhh so 2 seconds with no gun in exchange for seeing everything is balanced? Haha okay To the first point, yes if being scanned is such a deal breaker to your fun, then you should be running scout. Especially if your current plan involves being undetected(shotgunflanking for example) . To the second, if you don't see the benefit of having an enemy of your team not shooting at you, I don't know how to help you. The person running scans is playing for the team, and you want to nerf his team helping because you don't want to pay the cost(lower eHP) of running a scout suit to avoid being scanned. The easiest thing to do would be to learn to fight instead just flank, but that might be above your skill ceiling based on your posts. You ever play metro on BF 3 or 4? All it took was one recon with a T-ugs and everyone showed up, no hiding, no recharging, no cooldown and they have their gun out and they can have other equipment as well. Certainly didn't break anything there, and with the much lower ttk it should have. Embrace fighting while scanned or run a scout suit, you have a choice, you just don't like the options so you want the game changed to suit you, to which I say nope. Good players don't need scanners they have awareness, you said it yourself earlier you use scanners so you don't get shot in the back because you have no awareness, turn volume up and you can hear footsteps and ppl decloaking Your idea of battle seems to be 2 lines of ppl attacking front on with logi's behind repping I'm saying remove scanners or prevent ppl shooting at all for the full duration of the scan making targets visible In a gun game knowing where most of your targets are most of.the time is easy mode, focus should.be on making all Ewar modules better so scanners aren't needed,.want 30m of 20 precision? Fit a precision module.. Things like this would make scanners obsolete, provide more variety in fittings and.still allow ppl on all.suits to scan passively N at ranges dictated by the modules they fit... 1 person with 1 scanner should.not bring so many benefits for little risk (3 seconds of not firing is nothing compared.to lighting up most enemies.positions) This would make dust Ewar more inline with eve I said if the sound was better, but its not, and so scanners. My idea of battles in dust is people choosing the right suit for the role they want to play. The only reason why you are permanent scanned is because you refuse to run a scout suit. Let the people who can shoot and fight go a do that while you flank uncanned if that is what you need to do. Knowing where the enemy is doesn't make killing them any easier, you still need to actually fight them. Have you never been the bait for a scanner? Let them scan you, retreat around corner with RE trap and harvest dot chasers. Given the angles of scans, it isn't impossible to get out of the angle for satisfying flanking action, unless you only play dom, in which case switch your game mode if you want a more open ended match experience. You really seem like you want all the benefits of a medium frame without any drawbacks, which is kind of childish. For someone who seems so bent out of shape by scanners, why do you not run a scout suit? You realise I have 70m sp right? I have a Cal scout maxed as well as gal assault and Cal Sentinel, all you've done is make.assumptions of my roles, play style and ability on nothing but me saying your crutch is Op. The whole benefit of DUST is that you can customise your fit to do what you want, ppl brick tank scouts, turn logi's into slayers, you seem to think if you pick a suit then that's your role which just isn't right, go look at dust trailers, in fact go.ask devs what dusts niches are and I guarantee 1 is customizable fits, that's why you can fit any light weapon/equipment/modules on your suit Ewar should be viable for all classes and if that was done we don't need scanners, you keep ignoring this point because you have no counter to why Ewar shouldn't be made more important than.scanners, you could.make.an anti scout logi using highs for precision lows for range amplifiers which could give below 18db precision at 40/50m + plus no need to scan as it's passive you can just keep repping etc and keep a lookout for.scouts... Now do you see why it's a.much better way to do things? Fits could be truly customizable,unique and more in line with eve It's clear you only have 1 suit because it never occurred to you I could have more than just an assault suit I should mention I have all equipment maxed too
So you have the tools to not be scanned, you just don't use them.
Scrubs be scrubs.
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Posted - 2015.09.15 17:18:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:lol scrubs defending another crutch. I've never in my life have touched a filthy scanner it makes players lazy and the game too unbalanced and too easy for the dominant team with scanners. Unbalanced mainly because not everyone is running a scout and whether these scanner users like it or not they need to face the music. They think that all the other 16 people in other team should accommodate to a different play style just because they are able to call in free scans for the rest of the game. I am sorry but im not gonna change my role of assault as if yall are the most bad 4ssest players that have ever touched this game. Just because you are able to do free scans that took no effort what so ever to get a huge advantage it shouldn't dictate the entire game and hinder other people's play style for the entire game. That is just bad gameplay mechanics. In black ops 1 the equivalent of a scanner was the black bird and that thing was a game changer. Here any scrub can call a black bird the entire game w-t-f...
All these people with scans would get a nice dose of reality of how bad they are at this game. Because people with scanners most of them that iv'e faced have ZERO intuition, they rely so heavily on the stupid little radar and once that is gone they have nothing. Just get yourself dedicated scanner guys and you got 100% advantage already unless the other team also has a dedicated scanner then its at 50%. It's so dumb. It doesn't reward skilled game play it's just a lobby full of monkeys flinging sh*t at each other.
I sway away from this more by the time passes.
Not buying it.
You have the ability and the people around you to win the fight, being scanned doesn't matter.
If you NEED stealth, which not every role needs, run a scout suit.
If for some reason you must not be scanned in a medium frame(why is really beyond me), then you get to gimp your HP to less of a scout for no gain. Knock yourself out I guess.
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